1 Thursday, 13 June 2013
2 [Open session]
3 [The accused entered court]
4 --- Upon commencing at 9.00 a.m.
5 JUDGE DELVOIE: Good morning to everyone in and around the
7 Mr. Registrar, could you call the case, please.
8 THE REGISTRAR: Good morning, Your Honours.
9 This is the case IT-04-75-T, the Prosecutor versus Goran Hadzic.
10 Thank you.
11 JUDGE DELVOIE: Thank you very much.
12 Could we have the appearances, please, starting with the
14 MR. STRINGER: Good morning, Mr. President, Your Honours.
15 For the Prosecution, Douglas Stringer, Matthew Olmsted, Thomas
16 Laugel, and Morvarid Bagheri. Thank you.
17 JUDGE DELVOIE: Thank you.
18 For the Defence, Mr. Zivanovic.
19 MR. ZIVANOVIC: Good morning, Your Honours. For the Defence of
20 Goran Hadzic, Zoran Zivanovic and Christopher Gosnell. Thank you.
21 JUDGE DELVOIE: Thank you.
22 The witness may be brought in. We go into closed session. Thank
24 [Closed session]
11 Pages 5667-5755 redacted. Closed session.
13 [Open session]
14 THE REGISTRAR: We're in open session, Your Honours.
15 JUDGE DELVOIE: The Trial Chamber has a few more things to share
16 with you.
17 First is an oral ruling on the Defence motion of -- to substitute
18 translation of Prosecution Exhibit P322 filed on 12 -- the 12th of June.
19 Is there any objection from the Prosecution? Do you know what we
20 are talking about?
21 MR. STRINGER: Yes, we know, and there is no objection,
22 Mr. President.
23 JUDGE DELVOIE: Thank you. The motion is granted.
24 Secondly, the Defence requested the admission of a number of
25 documents that it used solely to challenge the credibility of
1 Milomir Kovacevic at the end of his testimony on the 11th of June, 2013.
2 His prior evidence in the case of Stanisic and Simatovic, the proofing
3 note with additional information from August 2009 with Rule 65 ter number
4 02767 and the proofing note from the current case with Rule 65 ter
5 number 1D0437.
6 In view of the extensive evidence elicited from the witness
7 pertaining to his credibility in the course of his cross-examination, the
8 Trial Chamber does not consider the admission of further material
10 Accordingly, the Chamber denies the admission of the prior
11 evidence from Stanisic and Simatovic and the proofing with 65 ter number
12 1D437. The proofing note with additional information from August 2009,
13 however, will be admitted since it substantially supplements the original
14 statement of the witness admitted as part of his Rule 92 ter package as
16 Last but not least --
17 MR. GOSNELL: Mr. President, sorry, could I just interject or
18 pose a question.
19 Do I understand that it is admitted purely for the purposes of
20 credibility or for any purpose?
21 JUDGE DELVOIE: It was tendered for the purpose of credibility.
22 MR. GOSNELL: That's correct. And that's what we would wish.
23 JUDGE DELVOIE: Yeah. So that's --
24 MR. GOSNELL: The only reason I pose the question, Mr. President,
25 was because the way that the decision was framed, I was wondering whether
1 you had decided to admit it under 92 ter or whether you had decided that
2 it should be admitted purely for credibility purposes.
3 JUDGE DELVOIE: No. It's -- it's -- it's decided -- it's decided
4 as you requested.
5 MR. GOSNELL: Thank you, Mr. President.
6 JUDGE DELVOIE: Everyone in and around the courtroom will have
7 noticed that the Court Officer who assists us from day one of this trial
8 is back in court again today. Unfortunately, Mr. Srdjan Mujanovic will
9 not be with us anymore in the future. He has been assigned another
10 important task relating to the transition of files and transcripts
11 between ICTY and MICT.
12 I think it would not be appropriate to allow Mr. Mujanovic to
13 sneak out of the courtroom just like that, as a thief in the night, as it
14 were. I would instead like to place on the record the Trial Chamber's
15 condemnation for the excellent work and the incredible precision with
16 which Mr. Mujanovic assisted all of us, the Bench, the parties, and
17 everyone else alike.
18 We thank you for that, Mr. Mujanovic, and we wish you all the
19 best in your new line of work.
20 If the loss of Mr. Mujanovic's assistance is unfortunate, indeed,
21 the Registry, however, provides us with an equally excellent successor
22 being the only person I know of who is able to put two hands in trouser
23 pockets while wearing a court robe and make it look elegant. I'm
24 referring to Ms. Anna Veretelnikova, whose work Judge Hall and I know
25 from the Stanisic and Zupljanin trial and have in very high esteem.
1 If there's nothing else --
2 MR. STRINGER: Thank you, Mr. President.
3 May I, on behalf of the Prosecution, express to Mr. Mujanovic our
4 gratitude for everything -- his -- his highly diligent and conscientious
5 work, not only once the trial started but also the assistance and the
6 guidance he provided to the Prosecution - and I think the Defence would
7 share this view - during the pre-trial phase as well, and we wish to
8 congratulate Mr. Mujanovic for his new position, and he will, indeed, be
9 missed by us.
10 JUDGE DELVOIE: Mr. Zivanovic.
11 MR. ZIVANOVIC: I would join to the best wishes of the
12 Trial Chamber and the Prosecution to Mr. Mujanovic in his new job. Thank
14 JUDGE DELVOIE: Thank you very much.
15 I think that will be all for the week, and I wish all of you a
16 safe weekend.
17 Court adjourned.
18 --- Whereupon the hearing adjourned at 2.11 p.m.,
19 to be reconvened on Monday, the 17th day of June,
20 2013, at 9.00 a.m.