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1 Monday, 29 March 2004
2 [Open session]
3 --- Upon commencing at 2.17 p.m.
4 [The accused entered court]
5 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Mr. Registrar, will you please
6 call the case.
7 THE REGISTRAR: Your Honours, case number IT-01-47-T, the
8 Prosecutor versus Enver Hadzihasanovic and Amir Kubura.
9 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Thank you, Mr. Registrar.
10 The appearances for the Prosecution, please.
11 MR. WITHOPF: Good afternoon, Mr. President. Good afternoon,
12 Your Honours. Good afternoon, Counsel. For the Prosecution, Tecla
13 Benjamin, Ekkehard Withopf, and Ruth Carver, the case manager.
14 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Thank you, Mr. Withopf.
15 The appearances for the Defence, please.
16 MS. RESIDOVIC: [Interpretation] Good afternoon, Your Honours. On
17 behalf of General Hadzihasanovic, Edina Residovic, lead counsel; and
18 Alexis Demirdjian, legal assistant. Thank you.
19 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Thank you.
20 And the other Defence team.
21 MR. IBRISIMOVIC: [Interpretation] Good afternoon, Your Honours.
22 On behalf of Mr. Kubura, Rodney Dixon, Fahrudin Ibrisimovic, and Nermin
23 Mulalic, legal assistant.
24 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Thank you. The Chamber bids
25 good afternoon to all those present after the weekend. They also greet
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1 the representatives of the Prosecution, the Defence counsels, the
2 accused, as well as all the staff of this courtroom, and the interpreters
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4 We have a witness today who is planned to take two days. The
5 Prosecution has supplied an amended plan for this week and the week that
6 follows. Regarding next week, we have envisaged Thursday, the 8th of
7 April a hearing devoted to the admission of documents. Should the
8 witness planned for Tuesday and Wednesday finish earlier, in that case we
9 can address the admission of documents earlier. In that case, we can do
10 it Wednesday rather than Thursday. But all that will depend on the way
11 in which we observe the planning and the requirements of the hearings.
12 We will now go into private session. So, Mr. Registrar, let us
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8 THE REGISTRAR: Your Honours, we are in open session.
9 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] I shall now give the floor to
10 Mr. Withopf for the planning for tomorrow, as we are about to adjourn and
11 we have finished with the witness.
12 You have the floor, Mr. Withopf.
13 MR. WITHOPF: Mr. President, Your Honours, for the reasons as
14 explained on Friday, tomorrow there will, unfortunately, be no witness
15 available. There will be two witnesses, however, on Wednesday. One of
16 them is likely to carry on on Thursday, and we will have another witness
17 scheduled for Friday.
18 I thought that tomorrow morning, however, can be used for this
19 informal meeting involving representatives of the Prosecution, Defence
20 counsel, the Chamber's legal officer, and the registrar in order to
21 discuss the issue of tendering the documents later on.
22 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] I thought that the informal
23 meeting would be held only between the parties, the registry, and the
24 legal officer of the Chamber, without the Judges.
25 MR. WITHOPF: That's right.
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1 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Because the interpreters added
2 us. The interpreters seem to believe that we should be present -- no,
3 without the Judges.
4 MR. WITHOPF: That's exactly correct, Mr. President. It's meant
5 to be without the Judges.
6 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Very well. So there will be no
7 hearing tomorrow. There will be this meeting, informally, and we will
8 resume the proceedings on Wednesday at 9.00, because we're working in the
9 mornings Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And then next Monday it will be in
10 the afternoon and then again Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of the
11 following week.
12 Have you had time to go and see the models, Mr. Withopf? When I
13 see this empty space in front of us, I thought that perhaps it could be
14 occupied by the model.
15 MR. WITHOPF: Mr. President, Your Honours, I'm as curious as you
16 obviously are to see the model, but you should ask the question to my
17 learned friends from the Defence side. I'm basically always available to
18 see the model, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. So my friends from
19 the Defence side are far better in a position to answer this question
20 than I.
21 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] Madam Residovic.
22 MS. RESIDOVIC: [Interpretation] Mr. President, since my learned
23 friend is impatient, before this hearing I suggest that it be on
24 Wednesday, as we will have a witness who can view this model. And after
25 that, we will be having two international witnesses, who will also be
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1 able to use the model. And we'll be working all three days in this
2 courtroom, so I think that that would be the most appropriate way to
3 finally set up the model. Thank you.
4 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Microphone not activated]
5 THE INTERPRETER: Microphone, Your Honour. Microphone, Your
6 Honour, please.
7 JUDGE ANTONETTI: [Interpretation] I was just asking whether there
8 were any other questions. If not, the hearing is adjourned. And please
9 be back here on Wednesday at 9.00 a.m.
10 --- Whereupon the hearing adjourned at 6.34 p.m.,
11 to be reconvened on Wednesday, the 31st day of
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